Ski Run Fire October/November 2003

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More photos and stuff will be added as it comes in.

Beth Wilson, Gerre, Janie and Justin

Justin and Janie

After a hard day there is nothing better than Janie's "recipe" (Photo by Mary Ann and John)

Fire Fighters take a well deserved break at Rowley Crossing  (Photo by Mary Ann and John)

Is that tree going to fall on Terrell and Judy's new addition?  (Photo by Mary Ann and John)

 

Bed time at the baseball field for the fire fighters.  (Photo by Mary Ann and John)

 

Mary Ann and Gerre trying to get Max into the car for another return to the cabin.  (Photo by Mary Ann and John)

 

Smoke as seen from Sears Cabin

 

Briefing every morning at 6:30 am (Ball Field)

 

Fire Fighting Crews stayed in tents at ball field

 

They brought a dozer into our canyon to cut a fire line on Wednesday, the day when we had high winds.

They never had to use it in our canyon because the fire teams held the fire.

 

Inmate crew cutting trees by the Donnelly cabin

 

Jayson and Curtis (they, and Dan the IC,  are the best friends Eagle Creek has ever had)

 

Sizing up the tree by the Jacob cabin

Janie, Justin, Tom (Paramedic) and Jayson looking over the stump by the Jacob cabin.

 

Just missed the big tree behind the lodge. Curtis, Tom and Justin.

 

 E-Mails

10-28-03
Eagle Creek home owners,
You may have heard that there was a fire last night and this morning that burned about 350 acres in Johnson Canyon.  The canyon just to the south of Eagle Creek.  The fire was started in the Oak Grove camp ground up the ski run road and burned to the South and West, away from Eagle Creek Homes.  John Brummal drove to Eagle Creek this morning to check on the homes.  He reported that all was well in the canyon, there is no damage and not even smell of smoke.
Thank You John
Terrell Hutchens

10-28-03

Heard from John Brummal earlier this evening and he asked that we send an update regarding the fire.  John is there in Ruidoso.  He said the fire is located in Carlton Canyon which is two canyons over from Eagle Creek.  Johnson Canyon is in between.  John reports that there are 250 acres in the fire.  Earlier reports indicated about 400 acres.  5 acres are reported to extremely hot.  There is one main fire and several smaller fires and they have been concentrating on the smaller fires.  It is considered 0% contained.  It has been reclassified as a Stage 1 fire which brings in the highest powered fire fighters available and considerably more resources.  There are 100+ firefighters presently.  Also using a helicopter for air support.  There are 2 C130 slurry planes grounded in Clovis.  The fire is believed to have been started by campers or hunters at the Oak Grove camp ground.   John says that tomorrow will be critical.  The winds are supposed to blow so pray that that they blow to the west. 

 
We also heard from Bequi Livingston in Albuquerque who said that her boss is one of the rangers involved in fighting the fire.  She talked with him and sounded optimistic that our cabins will be safe. 
 
Gerre Sears, Janie Jacob, and Justin Medlock were in their cabins when the fire broke out and were evacuated by the Sheriff at about midnight last night.  They are staying at the Swiss Chalet. 
 
Will provide further updates as we hear news.

Terrell Hutchens

10-29-03

 

Here is the latest report from John Brummal.   He called earlier this evening and is now on his way back to El Paso.  At the present time they are cautiously optimistic.  The winds were blowing towards the east, towards the Ski Run Road, #532.  This direction favors our cabins. Apparently the fire is no closer to our cabins today.  In talking with Ray Medlock, it sounds like this wind direction is expected to continue tomorrow.  Winds were blowing at about 30 MPH today but are calm this evening.  The news media who visited the fire today reported they saw a lot of smoke but very little actual fire.  Approx. 270 firefighters are there and a wildfire information fact sheet reported 8 engines, 1 dozer, 4 helicopters, and 3 watertenders are fighting the fire.   News reporters say the firefighters are gaining ground on the fire and are successfully treating it with backfires.
 
That's the good news!  The not so good news is that the firefighters consider our cabins as indefensible, that is, it is too dangerous to risk sending firefighters on FR 127A.  The road is too narrow and just one lane.  So if the fire does go into our canyon, they will not be able to fight it there but will focus on protecting the homes in Villa Madonna, an area they can safely get to.  I'm sure we would all agree that we would not want anyone taking unreasonable risks to save our cabins. 
 
Gerre, Janie, Justin, and John were allowed to go back to their cabins briefly today to remove a few valuables.  They also took donuts to the firefighters this morning, showing their support for the effort.  Justin plans to attend the firefighters briefing early Thursday morning and will be reporting back to Linda and Ray Medlock.  I have encouraged them to keep us all updated.    Judie

 

Thursday 10-30-03
Fire update
The news is not good.  Have just talked with John Brummal, who remained in Ruidoso when he realized the winds were shifting.  The fire is now within about 1/4 miles of the Sears' cabin.  It is working itself down Carlton Canyon and, if it gets far enough, it will go up the mountain and then into Eagle Creek and Johnson Canyon.  At that point we will likely start losing cabins.  John talked with the Incident Coordinator, the man in charge of the whole operation, and he made another trip down FR 127A today.  Said that there may be some things they can do to save some cabins.  He was not specific.  He's got hard decisions to make.  John told him that if they are in a budget crunch, our association had $3,000 that could be spent to save our cabins, perhaps to hire a bull dozer.  At this time there's not much that can be done but wait until morning and see what happens.  Winds got up to 50 MPH today and the helicopters couldn't fly.  They are expecting less wind tomorrow.  Wish we had better news.  Say your prayers.  Judie and Terrell

 

10-31-03

Hello all,

 
Just got off the phone with Dianne Stallings of the Ruidoso News.  She had not spoken with the Forest Service as of this morning, but placed a call to Forest Service spokesperson Beth Wilson on our behalf.  Dianne immediately called me back to report the content of her conversation with Ms. Wilson.  Ms. Wilson, who was with the Incident Commander Dan Oltrogge during the call, reported that the 15 acre fire that had jumped the break into Carlton Canyon yesterday had been contained and no longer posed an immediate threat to our homes. Much of the fire remained on the ground and there were few, if any, true crown fires. 
Winds that had grounded tanker operations yesterday were calm and would allow for continued tanker operations today.  Yesterdays discussions about re-opening the slurry operation at the airport had been tabled...another good sign.  Helicopter flights resumed today, and the Forest Service reports abundant water resources for fighting the fire.  Water is being dipped from Mescalero, ornamental ponds in Alto and artificial holding ponds filled with water from tanker trucks.
According to Oltrogge, the fire remains about 3/4 of a mile from Eagle Creek Canyon...about the same distance as when the fire ignited on Monday.  Oltrogge's assesment was that Eagle Creek Canyon was at a lower risk now than at any time since the fire began. "Calm winds and much cooler temperatures today create much improved conditions for fighting this fire" according to Ms. Wilson.
Sooo...doesn't look like we are completely out of the woods yet, but the situation is looking better.  The strong winds of yesterday are not predicted to resume, although the calm of today will be replaced by 15-20 mph winds tomorrow and Sunday.  Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope the good news continues.  We will have been given a gift to be thankful for this Holiday Season in addition to all the other wonderful things in our lives. 
Hope this finds all of you well.
 
Warm regards,
 
Houston Legg

 

10-31-Friday
I just talked to John Brummal about 5:45 PM.  He said things are much improved today.  None of the Eagle Creek Canyon has had any fire in it and all of the cabins are safe at this time.  We are not totally out of danger yet though.  There are about 400 fire fighters working on the fire now and they have made a lot of headway in controlling the Ski Run fire.  The Forest Service may let residents return to their cabins around 8:00pm to night.  Thank you for your prayers
Terrell

 

11-2-03
A big thanks to John Brummal for his diplomacy with the Forest Service and the Incident Commander this past week.  The Ski Run fire is contained to the upper slopes of Carson Canyon and our Eagle Creek Homes are out of danger now.  John was able to secure about 60 of the fire fighters Sat and Sun to do more thinning around the cabins.  Mary Ann said to day that they have done more thinning in the past two days than was done all last summer.  She said the canyon looks like it did when she was a little girl playing on Eagle Creek.  This incident team even wants to come back next year to do some controlled burns in the canyon to get rid of the 6 inches of pine needles that create such a fire hazard for Eagle Creek.  This would allow the grass to grow again on the slopes providing a renewed food source for the Deer and Elk.
It could possibly even begin to raise the water table along the creek. 
 
I understand that John was going to cook hamburgers for the 60 men who were working so hard to make our Eagle Creek homes safer from the wild fires that are inevitable in the forest.
 
We are all blessed with with our places on Eagle Creek and blessed to have John as our president in this time of close disaster.  Send him a note if you get a chance.
 
Terrell Hutchens
11-2-03
A big thanks to John Brummal for his diplomacy with the Forest Service and the Incident Commander this past week.  The Ski Run fire is contained to the upper slopes of Carson Canyon and our Eagle Creek Homes are out of danger now.  John was able to secure about 60 of the fire fighters Sat and Sun to do more thinning around the cabins.  Mary Ann said to day that they have done more thinning in the past two days than was done all last summer.  She said the canyon looks like it did when she was a little girl playing on Eagle Creek.  This incident team even wants to come back next year to do some controlled burns in the canyon to get rid of the 6 inches of pine needles that create such a fire hazard for Eagle Creek.  This would allow the grass to grow again on the slopes providing a renewed food source for the Deer and Elk.
It could possibly even begin to raise the water table along the creek. 
 
I understand that John was going to cook hamburgers for the 60 men who were working so hard to make our Eagle Creek homes safer from the wild fires that are inevitable in the forest.
 
We are all blessed with with our places on Eagle Creek and blessed to have John as our president in this time of close disaster.  Send him a note if you get a chance.
 
Terrell Hutchens

 

11-2-03

Hi Terrell and Judy -

 
I'm sure that everyone is sighing with relief now since there has been much headway, and cool weather for the fire situation.  Although quite scary, I was fortunate enough to be in touch with my boss, Jerome Macdonald, every day.  Jerome is the Operations Section Chief for  Dan Oltrogee's Incident Management Team that was managing the fire.  Jerome's job is to make the decisions for all the firefighting operations.  Jerome was with me this summer when we were at Eagle Creek and you were there - I'm not sure if you remember him or not. 
 
During this fire, Jerome drove up to the cabins at least twice a day to ensure that everything was safe and he was willing to make whatever decisions he could to save the cabins if needed.  The good thing is that he never felt that they were in immediate danger even though the one day with the high winds was a bit scary.  He even drove to ABQ for a meeting on Thursday and showed me the map and shift briefing plan for the day's operations.   I think that it's quite important to know that these teams are like a team of doctors during a critical operation and have to always be very conservative in talking to the public and ere on the side of pessimism.  I am just glad that John Brummal was around to make those direct contacts.  I do hope that they were able to go back to Eagle Creek now.
 
I think that this is just another good reminder of just how vulnerable Eagle Creek is.  We were just fortunate this time that it was late in the year and although very dry, we had the advantage of cooler temperatures and higher humidity than during summertime.  As Ron mentioned in his previous note, we are working with some friends on developing a device that might help in providing protection to the cabins given an immediate threat of wildfire.  They have the device in California right now hoping to provide some assistance there if needed. 
 
Although the device is brand new, it might very well be something to consider in the future.  Unfortunately, there will be other fires and certainly other very close calls and it will be critical that Eagle Creek have a plan in place to be prepared for the inevitable.  As a fire manager,  there is lots that we can do such a thinning and prescribed burning to mitigate a wildfire catastrophe.  But there is also so much that the home owners can do to also be proactive.  I know that you all are working so hard in providing the best protection that you can..... I really admire that.  Just remember that  Ron and I are willing to do whatever we can to help in your efforts as well.
 
Just for your information to share with the cabin owners.  There will be a great conference the week of November 17 at the Ruidoso Convention Center hosted by SWFCO (Southwest Fire Council).  There will be guest speakers and vendors and some great information all regarding fire in the wildland urban interface.  I would highly recommend attending if any of you are at Eagle Creek.  For more information you can go to the website:  www.nationalfiretraining..net/sw/   
 
We are hoping to have the device there as a vendor if we are able.
 
Take care and we think of you all often.  Thanks again for all your help and support regarding the memorial aspen trees...
 
Bequi

PEPARING A HOUSE FOR WILDLAND FIRE SEASON

11-5-03

Hello to all!! I was up to the cabins one time this October and that was on the 4th. All cabins at that time checked out ok. The rest of the month I was plagued with health problems but that is gradually becoming 

more under control.  I would like to thank Jeff,Janie,Gerre and Justin for checking the cabins on those months that I was unable to. I was up to EC Tues Nov 4th and after the thinning the canyon looks quite different. There was a crew clearing and thinning and will be there through Friday. The thinning includes all cabins all the way to the end of the road and those cabins up Telephone canyon. I think the topic of the Ski Run Fire has been pretty well covered by Terrel Hutchins and others so I won't get into that  except to say that  we really got lucky because from what I've heard that at one point we came very close to losing the battle. John Brummal was a real influence in getting that thinning done.Thanks so much John. Maybe it was the hamburgers that did it. I have included a winter forecast,check it out! Till next time  Mark
http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/climas/forecasts/swoutlook.html

 

11-6-03

Hey John,

Here is a link to all the news articles on the Ski Run fire (sorted by Date) from Google in case you want to email it to everyone on the list:

http://news.google.com/news?q=%22ski+run+fire%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&scoring=d

Justin